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Istina, ima i zbilja gadnih zatvora prema kojima su oni u tzv.demokratskim zapadnim zemljama hoteli s pet zvjezdica... mislio sam na one kakve obično gledamo na TV.
Nego, OT:
sedam miliona ljudi godišnje pokrepa samo od zagađenja zraka.
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Prvi puta čujem za *taj izraz. Ima neka studija o tome?
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E da, nikakvo čudo šta su ljudi danas sve glupaviji; zagađenje smanjuje i inteligenciju.
https://bigthink.com/brandon-weber/uh-o ... s-how-much
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Ti si stručnjak za studije, ja ti mogu ponuditi samo članak: indoor air pollution, a hrvatski izraz guglaj sam.
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I kakve to veze ima s industrijskim onečišćenjima zraka na otvorenom od kojih umire 7 miliona ljudi godišnje?MmeTipfeler wrote: ↑13 Sep 2018, 10:56Ti si stručnjak za studije, ja ti mogu ponuditi samo članak: indoor air pollution, a hrvatski izraz guglaj sam.
Jel u to trebamo ubrojit i one šta im voda dospije u pluća?
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Misliš, kao pušenje ili klime?MmeTipfeler wrote: ↑13 Sep 2018, 13:39Govorim ti da je gotovo polovica od toga unutarnje onečišćenje zraka, a ti provjeravaj.
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To si ti pretpostavila.MmeTipfeler wrote: ↑13 Sep 2018, 13:39Govorim ti da je gotovo polovica od toga unutarnje onečišćenje zraka, a ti provjeravaj.
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Gdje piše da se to ubraja u onih 7 miliona smrti od industrijskih zagađenja zraka?
Inače, imaš tamo još takvih katastrofičnih linkova, kao ovaj na kome piše:
Changes in climate are already undermining production of major crops such as wheat, rice and maize in tropical and temperate regions and, without building climate resilience, this is expected to worsen as temperatures increase and become more extreme.
Analysis in the report shows that the prevalence and number of undernourished people tend to be higher in countries highly exposed to climate extremes. Undernourishment is higher again when exposure to climate extremes is compounded by a high proportion of the population depending on agricultural systems that are highly sensitive to rainfall and temperature variability.
Temperature anomalies over agricultural cropping areas continued to be higher than the long-term mean throughout 2011–2016, leading to more frequent spells of extreme heat in the last five years. The nature of rainfall seasons is also changing, such as the late or early start of rainy seasons and the unequal distribution of rainfall within a season.
The harm to agricultural production contributes to shortfalls in food availability, with knock-on effects causing food price hikes and income losses that reduce people’s access to food.
http://www.who.int/news-room/detail/11- ... eport-says
Inače, imaš tamo još takvih katastrofičnih linkova, kao ovaj na kome piše:
Changes in climate are already undermining production of major crops such as wheat, rice and maize in tropical and temperate regions and, without building climate resilience, this is expected to worsen as temperatures increase and become more extreme.
Analysis in the report shows that the prevalence and number of undernourished people tend to be higher in countries highly exposed to climate extremes. Undernourishment is higher again when exposure to climate extremes is compounded by a high proportion of the population depending on agricultural systems that are highly sensitive to rainfall and temperature variability.
Temperature anomalies over agricultural cropping areas continued to be higher than the long-term mean throughout 2011–2016, leading to more frequent spells of extreme heat in the last five years. The nature of rainfall seasons is also changing, such as the late or early start of rainy seasons and the unequal distribution of rainfall within a season.
The harm to agricultural production contributes to shortfalls in food availability, with knock-on effects causing food price hikes and income losses that reduce people’s access to food.
http://www.who.int/news-room/detail/11- ... eport-says
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Ništa ja ne vjerujem dok ne čujem i drugu stranu.MmeTipfeler wrote: ↑14 Sep 2018, 07:01Recimo, ovdje.
Auuu, jebiga, to je bilo prije nekoliko godina. U međuvremenu se stanje sigurno bitno promijenilo.
I gdje su neke brojke?
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E da, si vidla ti tu dvomisao? WHO joj je savršeno kredibilan izvor kad se radi o zagađenju zraka, ali kad je riječ o globalnom zatopljenju onda su to sve sami katastrofičari
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Ne pravim se ja. Samo uzvraćam udarac.
WHO navodi statistike odnosno podatke, katastrofičari daju prognoze. Nuance.
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Ti si prva počela
... Changes in climate are already undermining production of major crops such as wheat, rice and maize in tropical and temperate regions and, without building climate resilience, this is expected to worsen as temperatures increase and become more extreme...MmeTipfeler wrote: ↑14 Sep 2018, 17:16WHO navodi statistike odnosno podatke, katastrofičari daju prognoze. Nuance.
http://www.who.int/news-room/detail/11- ... eport-says
-doublethink/nerazumijem što čitam/neželim/vateva...
https://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvomisao
Ili ti možda znaš za studiju koja pokazuje kako će temperature nekim čudom nakon tri i pol desetljeća eksponencijalnog uzleta odma na današnji dan prestat rasti unatoč novom progresivnom masivnom oslobađanju 25x potentnijeg stakleničkog plina (metana) i daljnjom devastacijom biosfere koja apsorbira takve plinove?
Znanstvenici su IZRAČUNALI na temelju uzorkovanja tla i podmorja ugrubo koliko smrznutog metana ima, koliko će se osloboditi zbog porasta od početna dva stupnja, koliko u nekim okvirima će dalje temperatura zbog toga rasti, i kakve će posljedice po živi svijet sve to imati (opet u nekim okvirima). Nije to nikakvo pogađanje iz graha, matematika ne griješi. Ono što se sigurno zna je to da ti okviri variraju između crnog i najcrnjeg.
Crno (ali još uvijek najoptimističkiji model) je da će u toku ovog stoljeća četvrtina kopna postati nenastanjiva pustinja, civilizacija raspasti, a milijarde ljudi skapati, najcrnje da će sav složeniji život izumrijeti.
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Možemo li bez Wikipedije, molim? Svaki put jednostavno se naježim i ruka me ne sluša da stisne miša.
Nego, može li jedno jednostavno pitanje?
Nego, može li jedno jednostavno pitanje?
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Kakva vikipedija?MmeTipfeler wrote: ↑14 Sep 2018, 20:13Možemo li bez Wikipedije, molim? Svaki put jednostavno se naježim i ruka me ne sluša da stisne miša.
Objašnjavam ti šta mislim pod Dvomisao.
Drugo upozorenje trusta svjetskih znanstvenika:
https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/art ... 26/4605229
Na najboljem smo putu prema nekontroliranom efektu staklenika:
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/07/31/1810141115
- jel ovo vikipedija? S vikipedije ti ponekad samo dajem generalne info o stranicama s kojih linkam radove, da ti pokažem da to nije nikakva "žuta štampa". Trebaš indeks znanstvene pouzdanosti i citiranosti academic.oup.com i pnas.org žurnala? Neće biti s vikipedije, neboj se.
Imam dojam da ti uopće nisi koncentrirana na ovu našu već predugu raspravu, zbog tih padobranskih uleta svako malo
Jel kužiš da to nije moja interpretacija da čitav svijet ide dovraga?
Ne može jednostavno. Jednostavna pitanja su plitka i glupa i ne vode do pravih odgovora.
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